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Eckhart Tolle On Sensitivity
Excerpted from transcript of I've
been practicing staying in the moment with changing moments, but I
think I need some more advice. Is
high sensitivity just a narrow egoic state? And do you have some tools
that might help me to stop feeling so overwhelmed by all these small
things? OPRAH
WINFREY: That does sound like a label you've given yourself. DEBBY:
Yeah, yeah. I know (inaudible). OPRAH
WINFREY: "I'm a highly sensitive individual." Yes.
DEBBY:
Well, a lot of things, but usually when I go into a shop, and there's
loud music there, I just want to run away. I have a hard time dealing
with noise and chaos. ECKHART
TOLLE: Yes, or being in a big city, traffic. DEBBY:
Yeah. Yeah. ECKHART
TOLLE: Yes. Well, I suggest that you experiment a little bit when these
situations arise and you feel the same thing happening again. And if
you bring very alert attention to the situation, you realize that,
really, there are three levels to this situation. Level
one is whatever it is that disturbs you, the external noise, the chaos,
the traffic, whatever it may be, so there's the thing that disturbs
you—level one. Level
two, there is your reaction to that thing that disturbs you, which
could come as a—it could be an almost physical reaction. There's
perhaps a contraction in your body. It could be also an emotional
reaction of frustration, irritation, anger, I assume, something like
that, right? And
also, in addition, the reaction could be certain thoughts in your head
about the situation that says, "I can't stand being here any longer,
it's dreadful, dreadful." This
is level two. Now, be aware of—that these two are, first of all,
separate. There is the triggering event or situation, and then there is
your physical, emotional, mental reaction to that. And,
now what is level three? That is usually overlooked, but level three is
where, ultimately, freedom lies. Level
three is your awareness of both these levels. You are aware that there
is the situation, the event, "There is my reaction—physically,
emotional, mental. And there is myself being the aware space for those
two." And if
you can bring your attention more to that deepest level, then you
realize changes will happen on the other two levels. If you recognize
yourself, not as the reacting entity that happens in you, but that's
not who you are... But
you recognize yourself as the awareness that is aware of this thing
that's happening out there, of the thing that's reacting inside. OPRAH
WINFREY: So it's just actually like, Debby, you're observing your own
behavior. You're observing your ego's behavior toward... You're
observing your ego's behavior. ECKHART
TOLLE: With no attachment; just as pure observation, pure
awareness. OPRAH
WINFREY: Like, "Oh, isn't that interesting? I'm getting so upset over
this guy pulling in front of me." ECKHART
TOLLE: Yes. Just being there as the awareness. And that's already the
beginning of freedom. And then, increasingly, you realize that you are
that; you are not the entity that is reacting. And
then, as Oprah said, then you can let go of thinking for yourself, of
having this concept of yourself as a highly sensitive person that
perhaps you might—it's not natural, nothing personal in this—you may
have become attached to because you've lived with this concept of who
you are for many years. So
that's the—that's where freedom lies. OPRAH
WINFREY: But in addition to Debby's question, let's say, and for her,
you know, she labels herself or defines herself as a highly sensitive
person, but let's say a person gets upset about someone putting a dent
in his or her car, or you spill coffee on your blouse right before an
important meeting, or your child gets sick or you get sick, are you
saying that if we get upset about these things, these kind of things,
that we don't know who we truly are? ECKHART
TOLLE: If the dimension of presence or awareness is missing, then you
are lost in the reaction. OPRAH
WINFREY: You think you are
the reaction. ECKHART
TOLLE: Yes. Then you become the reaction, and when you
become the reaction, you don't know who you are. It's a misperception
of who you are. OPRAH
WINFREY: You got that, right,
Debby? DEBBY:
Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah. It helped me a lot. OPRAH
WINFREY: I got it too. I got it too. And just detaching
yourself, it doesn't—that doesn't change the situation. ECKHART
TOLLE: It
doesn't immediately change the situation. But you do find that as you
practice this, changes suddenly appear. Changes
sometimes first appear
in the force that is behind your reaction that lessens. You still
react, but less; not as strongly. And,
miraculously, you sometimes even
find that if you totally— because, really, the awareness level is also
part of the acceptance. You
completely accept that, "At this moment,
this is what I feel, and this is what the external situation is," with
complete acceptance. Even changes often happen miraculously in the
external situation. OPRAH
WINFREY: Yeah. I think
acceptance of the situation, which you talk about in "Power of Now,"
and also repeatedly in A New Earth, acceptance, nonresistance to the
moment is one of the most important things we can learn. ECKHART
TOLLE:
Yes. OPRAH
WINFREY: And that is whether or not you're
facing a crisis whether you're facing someone you've lost; a loved one,
or whether you're, you know, in traffic and are a highly sensitive
person, nonaccepting what is in that moment is the most
important. ECKHART
TOLLE: Yes. And you can practice with little things because
little things happen throughout the day that people feel irritated
about, angry about, protesting against, and so on. All
with little
things. You will have many opportunities to practice, so it's a
wonderful spiritual practice. So you use what you—before you wanted to
get rid of, you use it as part of your spiritual practice, and, as a
byproduct, you also eventually get rid of it. OPRAH
WINFREY: Thanks, Debby, thanks so much. DEBBY: Okay, thank
you. "Oh please be careful with me, I'm
sensitive and I'd like to stay that way" OPRAH
WINFREY: I Skyped Tenisha at the Bodhi Tree earlier today on The
Oprah Show, and she's back tonight with a question. Hi, Tenisha. TENISHA:
Hi Oprah.. Yes, my question has to do with
reactivity. On page 208, Tolle says the more reactive— okay, "What is
reactivity? Becoming addicted to reaction. The more reactive you, the
more entangled you become with form. The more identified with form, the
stronger the ego." My
question has to do with—I've always related being
reactive to being sensitive. And being sensitive allows me to be very
passionate about things, allows me to connect with other people and be
emotionally available to my friends and family. So my
question is, how
can I retain sensitivity and be passionate about things and keep that,
but not allow my ego to get stronger? ECKHART
TOLLE: Yes, thank you. Well, reaction may
appear to be a sign of sensitivity, but actually reaction is not
sensitive. Reaction
is a conditioned way of responding to a situation,
and you are not—all reaction really comes from the past because it's
part of the way in which you've been conditioned. And
because it comes
from the past, it is never totally adequate to the present moment. So
sensitivity is actually lost when you're reactive, and true sensitivity
comes when you are absolutely present in a situation and see, "This is
how it is," and you totally face the situation as it is. And
when that
comes, enormous sensitivity, and you can—with that comes also
intuition. It's
only when you internally don't resist a situation, then
the intuitive faculties arise within you. As
long as you internally
resist a situation—and reactivity's always some form of resistance—as
long as you internally resist, then the intuitive faculties cannot
really come in because you're acting out old conditioning. Intuition
comes out of presence; out of the present moment. So bringing presence
to a situation, then that means you become absolutely sensitive. And
that's also a deeper aliveness and a deeper power than what looks like
power and aliveness when you observe somebody reacting. Sometimes
it
might look very passionate, but really they are acting out their
past conditioning; the ego is acting out. That's
not true passion, it's
the ego wanting this or that from the situation; wanting to manipulate
the situation, wanting to get something out of the situation, whatever,
but not being truly present. So
it's only through presence that the
true sensitivity is there. [Image at top from
book: Too
Loud, Too Bright, Too Fast, Too Tight: What to Do If You Are Sensory
Defensive in an Overstimulating World, by Sharon Heller.] Also
available as an audio CD. Eckhart
Tolle was educated at the Universities of London and Cambridge, and at
the age of 29 experienced what he considered a spiritual transformation
that marked the beginning of his life as a counselor and spiritual
teacher. He is author of The Power of Now and Oprah's Book Club
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